Dee Mower from prison made a telephone call to Ken Dolezsar. Ken told her of his 7:00 a.m. meeting the next morning with “Robert” to get information about “Darick and Tommy as well, ‘cause evidently they’ve been talking to him.” Dee said, “Well he knows now, nothing will leak out, nothing is being said, nothing is ….” Presumably, this “he knows now” was in reference to Robert Zmelik’s extreme fear in regard to the Neways’ lawsuit interrogatory.
Leslie Mower, from prison, had a conversation from prison with Kenny Dolezsar the day before the murder. (The index numbers have been modified to make the ease of reading the transcript. You can download the original transcript for the Source Page).
- DISK 51a Leslie Mower Prison Call (Disk 51a 1 of 6)
- DATE: 11/14/2007
- Present on call: Ken and Dee
- CONTENT:
- OPERATOR: Please enter your pack number at the town. Your call is being processed.
- DEE: Hello?
- Leslie Mauer, an inmate.
- KEN: Hello?
- DEE: Hi, honey. Hey, how are you? Fine. You sound like you’re in a tunnel.
- KEN: I was downstairs in the pantry, and I’m walking back upstairs because I was going to go pick up something to eat, and now I changed my mind. Now I want to go upstairs, sit down on the couch and talk to you.
- DEE: Okay. So how have you been?
- KEN: Oh, pretty good today we had a really long meeting with Jamie and Laura and LaDonna and Shari, and they came over. It was so fun. They’re cutest girls in the world.
- DEE: Oh, they are. They’re just darling. All they’re darling.
- KEN: And they just enjoy each other’s company a lot. So we spend oh, gosh, 2 hours today.
- DEE: Was Laura there too?
- KEN: Oh, yeah, Laura’s there with her short hair. She looks like a boy.
- DEE: Oh, no.
- KEN: Oh, I’m just so mad at her.
- DEE: She cut her hair off. Did you find out about the second chance?
- KEN: Yes, I left it. They have it in front of a vote today or then they still haven’t got the results of the vote. And I looked everywhere to get results of the committee’s recommendation, and there’s nothing on the internet yet. I emailed the link.
- DEE: Did you read anything about it? Did it say anything about 60? Because Betty first said that it doesn’t.
- KEN: Yes, I read everywhere about the second chance that it had nothing to do with 60 that I could find anywhere.
- DEE: No, she said that it absolutely did not. So I didn’t know, but I’ve heard that it did. I just didn’t understand.
- KEN: Oh, okay. Well, then that makes it more clear because I read about the second chance and it wasn’t about 60.
- DEE: No, it’s about a lot of other things.
- KEN: Yeah, but now that you said that, maybe I’ve got to read a different part of it or something because I.
- DEE: It’s just about people getting out and going and doing it. But there were two parts to it, and I didn’t know what the other part was. Everybody’s saying yes, older people didn’t specifically say, but first time offenders, that the elderly. And I just wondered.
- KEN: Okay, well then that makes it more clear, because when I read through the whole thing, I didn’t see the word 60 anywhere. So now I’m going to read it again.
- DEE: Look up elderly on it.
- KEN: Yeah, I’m going to look up elderly or senior or something. I just couldn’t find a 60. So maybe I’m reading it wrong. Maybe I got to read it differently.
- DEE: No, it’s okay. It’s just I want to be told by the attorneys when they come on Friday, I hope that they’ve read it and can explain it to me.
- KEN: Yes, well, today is what, Wednesday? It’s hot day.
- DEE: Yes, it is.
- KEN: Oh, my heavens, I just left you.
- DEE: Yes, you did.
- KEN: And it’s already halfway to the next.
- DEE: Week and I can’t get here soon enough. I’m just sad today.
- KEN: Oh, my heaven. Are you really? I’m sad that you’re sad. You know what? I just keep myself so gosh darn busy today. I didn’t leave the house all day today. All I did was work in the basement with Laura. Sorry, LaDonna. We got three more letters from you. Actually, two. And one was to somebody else. I can’t remember who it was. And so we read all your letters and put them all away. Actually, you didn’t instruct us to do too many things today. I think there was one thing that you instructed me to do, and that.
- DEE: Was, I tell you, everybody that wrote me letters. And that means for you to write them something.
- KEN: Yeah. Those ones that write you, they get returned letters if they don’t write you. They don’t.
- DEE: Right.
- KEN: One of the things you asked me to highlight it in yellow was, go ask JJ and see if Suzanne was living in the basement and to tell you the truth or something. And so LaDonna was instructed to go do that today.
- DEE: Did I write a letter to JJ?
- KEN: No, it wasn’t the J-J-I haven’t written for so long.
- DEE: I don’t know when you’re ever going to get another letter.
- KEN: I got a letter today from you. So there you go. I got one, and then the other one was a letter that had a bunch of stuff. Oh, it was Bob’s return letter. That’s what it was. And you had all your replies on it.
- DEE: This call is from a federal prison.
- KEN: So ill I couldn’t read the other half of the letter.
- DEE: Oh, it was horrible. I told you it was horrible.
- KEN: I still finish it.
- DEE: Horrible letter.
- KEN: I’m thinking maybe I’ll read the other half tomorrow or something. I don’t know. But you have comments in there and I was reading it and I was just going, oh, my heavens, you didn’t do that. He did not do that. He did.
- DEE: It’s over between us. He made a very serious, horrible mistake.
- KEN: Well, anyway, so that we did that this morning. JJ.
- DEE: Don’t you talk to him about me. Don’t you discuss anything about me.
- KEN: No.
- DEE: If he asks well, I told him.
- KEN: You’re mad at him. I can’t say that you’re not.
- DEE: No, don’t, don’t I’m asking you not to.
- KEN: All right, I’ll tell them that I’ve been instructed not to talk to him about me.
- DEE: Well, yeah, you’re welcome to talk to him.
- KEN: Yeah, okay. All right.
- DEE: Because tell him that was the problem. And you have been instructed that you absolutely cannot discuss or disclose one thing about me or anything that I say to you.
- KEN: All right?
- DEE: Because that’s what got us all in hot water. And so that therefore, he’s to know nothing of our personal relationship and what we discussed together as husband and wife and of story.
- KEN: Good. I talked to Barry today. He came over. He was really happy. He told me the story of Suzanne.
- DEE: Was Suzanne living in his basement?
- KEN: He never told me that part. It’s amazing how I kind of asked the question a couple of times and he never answered it. He just kept me telling me that he really appreciated and Suzanne was his best friend and oh, my heavens, I couldn’t believe all the nice things he said about her. Well, he was just telling me how everybody in his family cried at the funeral, and then they were so sad, and they sang songs. I can’t even believe that Jamie’s kids went to the funeral, let alone cried at us. I guess they must have known Suzanne pretty good.
- DEE: Yeah. Oh, it’s just terrible.
- KEN: That whole thing just makes the little children said that Suzanne was their second mother, so they must have been living there together, doing them whatever girls do. It just seems so weird. I’ll tell you, if Tom ever moved in with me or us, I would die. I can’t imagine an ex living with us.
- DEE: No, that is the sickest thing I’ve ever heard in my whole entire life. That’s ridiculous.
- KEN: Or even having have you heard anything about him? Yes, but I got some reports to tell you on Friday.
- DEE: But bad for him.
- KEN: Yeah. So I’m actually meeting with my friend tomorrow at 07:00 a.m.. Go figure that out.
- DEE: I love it.
- KEN: 07:00 a.m. In the morning, so I have to.
- DEE: Get up, talk about Derek and Tommy as well, because evidently they have been talking to him.
- KEN: Okay, well, I’ll do it.
- DEE: See what they have to say.
- KEN: Okay. I’ll try to extend them. I’ll try to broaden the stroke and try to include a lot more other people and see what happens.
- DEE: Okay.
- KEN: So, yes, 07:00 A.m., tomorrow morning.
- DEE: If you know now, nothing will leak out. Nothing is being said. Nothing is yeah, exactly.
- KEN: So tomorrow morning is 07:00 a.m.. So tomorrow night I should know more.
- DEE: Jamie’s working at Trivani?
- KEN: Yeah. And right now I loaded her up with so much work, I don’t know how she can even get it all done. In fact, I gave her an incredibly big job of building the business plan, and she says she’s going to do it, so there you go. I was really thrilled. She asked me what chapters are in a business plan, and I told her what I expected. In the business plan? Sure.
- DEE: The one I sent home. Yeah, give her that. This call it’s from a federal prison as an outline. Make a copy of it and then give her that as an outline.
- KEN: Yeah, but I want to perform a statement and I want a well, use.
- DEE: That as a guideline because that’s pretty good.
- KEN: Yeah, it’s pretty good. It’s a really concise one. I would rather have it more expanded.
- DEE: Oh, yeah, it’s very concise. It’s just a 20 minutes or yeah.
- KEN: Well, so I did that and I went to go see why Life Today and Wildlife sold the company last night to a company named Logitech.
- DEE: Right.
- KEN: So that is good for us. So the reason why it’s good for us is because well, do you want.
- DEE: To leave everything in there or do you want to take it out or what do you want to do?
- KEN: Oh, I need to take it out because I run out of money and I need them. Ironically enough, I was down to my last 300 or something and I was wondering how I was going to pay the next bill on the ranch. So this came in perfect timing.
- DEE: What do you mean you run out of money? What about the money and personality?
- KEN: Well, I kind of promised you I wasn’t going to take any more out of there, so I don’t take any more out. I just spend the money that I have.
- DEE: Take money, use the money out of for security? Not for security.
- KEN: Chase, whatever.
- DEE: Yeah, chase and take the money out of that other bank down in Central.
- KEN: Okay?
- DEE: Use all that. For heaven’s sake. You promise me you weren’t going to use that. That is what you have to live on. And to pay all the bills. That is your money to live on, Ken.
- KEN: All right.
- DEE: I never told you that. I never tell you that.
- KEN: You never told me. I said I promised you I wouldn’t go into the securities unless I needed them.
- DEE: No, you get in there.
- KEN: Okay, well, anyway, the reason why is because the cabin is I instructed everyone to build the cabin.
- DEE: Yeah. This is for us. That money is ours and this is for us. No, you get in there. You take what you need.
- KEN: So I took care of that today. And while I sold some money, sold some shares, so I sold all my shares in Wildlife. Your shares?
- DEE: Too much. Would it be?
- KEN: It’s going to come out to almost three.
- DEE: Okay, well, that will be good. That will help out. But then you need to dip and dip it when and if and when you need to. It doesn’t matter.
- KEN: Three should last us at least another six or seven months. As long as I mean, I can’t no, whatever. You need, at least three or four.
- DEE: I am not going to scrimp. I don’t have to.
- KEN: I’ve instructed everyone to double their efforts on the ranch because I want it done by December now. So I’ve got double. Why is that?
- DEE: Well, it should be. It should be. They’ve really taken their time, and especially because I’ve been gone.
- KEN: Well, no, they haven’t taken the time.
- DEE: I mean, half my people are working up on Thompson.
- KEN: Well, that’s true.
- DEE: Yeah, but they had their efforts just online. It would be different.
- KEN: Well, they’re not the same company, but I suppose there’s maybe roundy not rounding. Roundy is not working there.
- DEE: Who?
- KEN: Roundee is only working at me?
- DEE: Who’s working up on Tom.
- KEN: I don’t know, but it’s not Randy.
- DEE: You’re the one that told me no.
- KEN: Roundy was asked to put a bid on and he didn’t put a bid on. He ended up bidding on Mackie’s house and he’s building Mackie’s house.
- DEE: Oh, you’re right. That’s right. Pardon me.
- KEN: And that’s why he’s splitting his employees into two. Because half of them are at Mackeys and half right.
- DEE: I knew that they were somewhere working. That makes me sick about Mackie’s. I wish that he hadn’t done that.
- KEN: Yeah, well, he did. And now Mackie’s in financial trouble and now he built too big of a house and oh, gosh.
- DEE: Isn’t that the way it goes? Isn’t that absolutely the way it goes? I would hate to be a contractor yeah, I know. And have that always going on. Have you heard any more about.
- KEN: Hi JJ.
- DEE: Golden Gate?
- KEN: No, I haven’t. I called Bart today and he never called me back. But you know what? I should try calling again tonight. Tell me.
- DEE: Jerry. I love him.
- KEN: He loves you. Love her, too.
- DEE: If he’s doing all right are you.
- KEN: Doing all right, Jim? Are you hungry? Okay. Are you going out tonight? Are you going out tonight? Okay. Well, he seems to be fine. I mean, he’s a happy kid. I’ve never you a happy kid. Yeah, we’re happy.
- DEE: Is he going to play with Posh?
- KEN: He’s playing with Posh right now. He’s patting her and Posh is sitting on the couch, on top of the couch. And he’s giving Posh a big kiss on the nose. So there you go. He loves Posh.
- DEE: Does Posh love him?
- KEN: Yeah, Posh loves everybody. Everyone’s jealous of Posh because I put him through the trick routine. They come over and I go and they gosh, he’s smart. You’re so smart. I don’t even like my own dog anymore.
- DEE: Sorry. That was fine.
- KEN: Darling was here for like 5 hours today. I just kicked her out literally 20 minutes ago. And Jarry said to me, I’m too afraid to buy a Bashan because I’m afraid he’d never be as good as Posh.
- DEE: Posh. Just kidding. How’s my mother?
- KEN: Your mother is mad at me today. She can’t find a light switch. She called up Jamie and LaDonna and then she called me and she says, please send an electrician because I can’t find and I said, well, there’s got to be a light switch there. I’ll send down Jamie. So Jamie went down to look for a light switch and she can’t find it. So now she wants me to hire an electrician. And I said, no, there’s light switch there.
- You go find it, then.
- KEN: I’m going to I’m going to go find it.
- DEE: You eat first and then you go find it. I’ve got beeps going.
- KEN: Oh, okay.
- DEE: But I’m sad. I may call you again tonight because I like talking to you. I’m sad.
- KEN: Well, you got lots of minutes this month.
- DEE: I do.
- KEN: Okay.
- DEE: I love you.
- KEN: I love you.
- DEE: I miss you.
- KEN: I miss you. We’ll see you in two days.
- DEE: Three.
- KEN: Three days. Sorry. Bye.
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